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 Good Evening Beloved in Christ

 Just want to share a small thought on Jesus temptation in the wilderness.

These were the temptations that overcame Adam and Eve, and that so readily overcome us.

The enticements which Christ resisted were those that we find it so difficult to withstand.

Christ withstood the test upon 1. appetite, 2. upon the love of the world, 3.  and upon that love of display

With Christ, as with the holy pair in Eden, appetite was the ground of the first great temptation. Just where the ruin began

 From the time of Adam to that of Christ, self-indulgence had increased the power of the appetites and passions, until they had almost unlimited control. Thus men had become debased and diseased, and of themselves it was impossible for them to overcome. DA

Christ conquered by enduring the severest test. For our sake He exercised a self-control stronger than hunger or death. And in this first victory were involved other issues that enter into all our conflicts with the powers of darkness. DA

My beloved brethren, let us first begin to have self control over the APPETITE.

TOPICS

1. How to support someone who is in stress? (Beula Babu)

2. IMPORTANCE OF FASTING (pastor Rajachidabaram, Trichy)

3. PRAYER AND IMPORTANCE OF MORNING AND EVENING WORSHIP (Pastor Anil Lakra, Bihar)

4. TEMPTATION AND SENSES (Mrs. Angelish, Trichy)

5. MINISTRY OF HEALING first few chapters. (Mrs Cecila Wilson, Trichy)

6. "How to tell God is leading " either us or anybody, (Mrs. Monica, Nepal) 

7. Going back to original diet (Mr. John Ranjit Mysore)

8.WHY MANNA WAS PROVIDED FOR THE ISRAELITES: (Mrs. Angelish)

9. NUTRITION AND MIND (Mrs. Asha Paul, Mysore)

10. APPEALS TO MOTHER ( Mrs.Pradeepa Shrikanth, Bihar)

11. THE WORK AND THE LIFE STEPS TO CHRIST (JEREMIAH MOSES)

12. Importance of the laws of health" or "why laws of health"  (Mrs.  Sonia Vinod, Hosur  Tamil Nadu

13. Seven Deadly Sins In Our Life? (By- Mr. Dreason Syllus) 

14. Does God test us? How we differentiate test and tempt in life (Joshua, Manipur)

14. MUSIC 🎶 IN THE CHURCH. (Joshua) 

1. How to support someone who is in stress. (Beulah Babu)

When some one is in stress, it can be difficult to know what to say or do. The bereaved struggle with many intense and painful emotions, including depression, anger, guilt, and profound sadness. Often, they also feel isolated and alone in their stress, since the intense pain and difficult emotions can make people uncomfortable about offering support. 

You may be afraid of intruding, saying the wrong thing, or making your loved one feel even worse at such a difficult time.

 The keys to help

 1. Don’t let fears about saying or doing the wrong things stop you from reaching out 

2. Let your grieving loved one know that you’re there to listen 

3. Understand that every one grieves differently and for different lengths of time 

4. Offer to help in practical ways 

5. Maintain your support 

Tip 1: Understand the process 

There is no right or wrong way to stress. It does not always unfold in orderly, predictable stages. It can be an emotional roller coaster, with unpredictable highs, lows, and set backs. Every one grieves differently, so avoid telling your loved one what they “should” be feeling or doing. It may involve extreme emotions and behaviors. Feelings of guilt, anger, despair, and fear are common.

  Don’t judge them or take their reactions personally. 

There is no set time table for stress. For many people, recovery after bereavement takes 18to24 months, but for others, the grieving process may be longer or shorter. Don’t pressure your loved one to move on or make them feel like they’ve been grieving too long. This can actually slow the healing process. 

Tip 2: Know what to say to someone who’s grieving While many of us worry about what to say to a grieving  person, it’s actually more important to listen. 

 Express your concern. For example: “I’m sorry to hear that this happened to you.” Be patient. Repeating the story is a way of processing and accepting the situation

 With each retelling, the pain lessens. By listening patiently and compassionately, you’re helping your loved one heal. 

Let them feel free to express their feelings—no matter how irrational— without fear of judgment, argument, or criticism. Be genuine in your communication. Don’t try to minimize their loss, provide simplistic solutions, or offer unsolicited advice. It’s far better to just listen to your love done or simply admit: “I’m not sure what to say, but I want you to know I care.” Be willing to sit in silence.

Tip 3: Offer practical assistance 

It is difficult for many grieving people to ask for help. They might feel guilty about receiving so much attention, fear being a burden to others, or simply be too depressed to reach out

 Tip 4: Provide ongoing support 

Let the stressed person know that you’re there for whatever they need.

 Tip 5: Watch for warning signs of depression

 It’s common for a stressed person to feel depressed, confused, disconnected from others, or like they’re going crazy. But if the bereaved person’s symptoms don’t gradually start to fade—or they get worse with time— this may be a sign that normal grief has evolved into a more serious problem, such as clinical depression. 

Encourage the stressed person to seek professional help if you observe any of the following warning signs after the initial grieving period—especially if it’s been over two months since the death.

 1. Difficulty functioning in daily life

 2. Extreme focus on the death 

 3. Excessive bitterness, anger, or guilt 

 4. Neglecting personal hygiene 

 5. Alcohol or drug abuse 

 6. Inability to enjoy life 

 7. Hallucinations

 8. Withdrawing from others

 9. Constant feelings of hopelessness 

10. Talking about dying or suicide

Tip 6: When appropriate, talk to them about Positivity of this life. Share with them the hope you have.

with Testimony (Anita)

First, I drop everything that I am doing immediately and give my full attention. Full eye contact, a slight touch or tap on the shoulder, or a smile, or just love, a patient look and all ears. I do not let anything or anyone distract my conversation when I am with a person who is stressed.

If the person is a girl or woman, I give them a hug. A hug usually calms them down faster. A certain boy pinched a girl in the school corridor once and she did not know English well and was traumatized by the incident. She came to me with her friends asking what steps to take.  She broke down. {We were using a translator friend}. I gave her a very long hug till she stopped crying and kept whispering to her that I was sorry. After that she was composed and willing to go to the authorities.

Second, I listen and prompt the person to speak, complain, grumble, cry so that they can vent out their stress. When the person is free to confide in me, and we can have a conversation, I share assurance and encourage. If the person allows, I pray with them there or later when I am alone continuously in my mind if there are not open to the Bible.

My method is often to draw the person’s attention to God who is loving and cares for the person and use the details from their story to show how God has led the person in the past.

If the person is considering suicide, then I explain why it is not right to take our life. I negotiate with the person and show how they can escape from the thought of ending their life and if there is something I can do to solve their problem then I act on it immediately.  

With media addiction depression and thoughts of suicide have increased and young people do not necessary know how to deal with it as they are still trying to understand themselves.  If they are bullied or trolled on the internet they get depressed.

I may have shared this testimony with some of you but it was truly amazing how God led me to speak to a stranger in a bus. It was peak of winter, here in north India. I had to urgently travel to Delhi, 5-6 hours by public transport. I couldn’t get a bus that would accommodate me because of the rush. Finally, after 2 hours of chasing buses I got a seat next to a woman and a young college boy. That was the only seat available. 

Half-way to Delhi the bus stopped for food. It was a shabby place and couldn’t get anything to eat but I had fruits in my knapsack. The boy sitting next to me did not get off to stretch his legs or eat something. So I offered him some fruits.

“I know I’m a stranger but would you like to have an orange or guava?”. He accepted. 

I asked him, “Are you from around here because you’re hardly wearing warm clothes and you are wearing slippers, so I guess you are not feeling cold.”

He said, “I’m travelling to Rajasthan and this was the last bus to my college but I’m from Rishikesh (Uttrakhand) and originally I’m from West Bengal.”

Then he shared about his family and then told me. “I’m running away from home.” “I had a fight with my brother. It was really bad I couldn’t stay at home and didn’t tell anyone that I was leaving.”

After that we talked about so many things about his studies, the girl he likes in his engineering class. He was stressed because he didn’t have a girlfriend and he was soon completing his studies. He showed me his sketches and we had long discussions about God. He was so open to the truth. He understood everything I said. He was willing to forgive his brother and call home to say where he was. 

“I needed to hear this today.”Akash said. “I told him, God wanted me to be on this bus so that I could talk with you.  It’s not an accident that I got this seat next to you.”

It is the Holy Spirit that gives us the thoughts and words to speak to someone who is stressed.  We should take the courage to step out of our comfort zone sometimes, you never know that you are the only hope for that person. God may be using you to reach that person to point them to God, the only ONE who can truly help us in our desperate moments.

Bible characteristic, how they over came stress and depression. 

Jesus was depressed in the garden of Gethsemane until He received power and comfort from His Father.  Christ overcame depression by trusting in God and not yielding to external factors which were pressing Him.

Christ's agony did not cease, but His depression and discouragement left Him. The storm had in nowise abated, but He who was its object was strengthened to meet its fury. He came forth calm and serene. A heavenly peace rested upon His bloodstained face. He had borne that which no human being could ever bear; for He had tasted the sufferings of death for every man. DA 694.1

Here are 5 people in the Bible who struggled with depression:

 1. Job

 2. Elijah

3. King David

 4. Heman son of Korah

 5. Jeremiah

Temporary Depression May Follow Success—A reaction such as frequently follows high faith and glorious success was pressing upon Elijah. He feared that the reformation begun on Carmel might not be lasting, and depression seized him. He had been exalted to Pisgah's top; now he was in the valley. While under the inspiration of the Almighty, he had stood the severest trial of faith; but in this time of discouragement, with Jezebel's threat sounding in his ears and Satan still apparently prevailing through the plotting of this wicked woman, he lost his hold on God. He had been exalted above measure, and the reaction was tremendous.—Prophets and Kings, 161, 162 (1917). - 2MCP 486.2

Counsel From Ellen White

What counsel did Ellen White give to those suffering under depression, and how did she herself cope with such feelings? She learned that support from family and friends can be invaluable. Often it was the prayers of close associates that broke the spell of darkness.11 Recalling the feelings of overwhelming despair that followed her childhood accident, Ellen White reflected, “I concealed my troubled feelings from my family and friends, fearing that they could not understand me. This was a mistaken course. Had I opened my mind to my mother, she might have instructed, soothed, and encouraged me.” Life Sketches of James White and Ellen G. White p. 135.

Ellen White also recommended the benefits of outdoor activity, gardening, enjoying nature, and simply praising God. E. G. White, Manuscript Releases, vol. 1, pp. 255, 256

 She counseled to go “right along, singing and making melody to God in your hearts, even when depressed by a sense of weight and sadness.” “I tell you as one who knows,” she added, “light will come, joy will be ours, and the mists and clouds will be rolled back.” Selected Messages  book 2, pp. 242, 243.

While Ellen White acknowledged the reality of such emotions, it was her practice not to give voice to negative feelings and thereby spread an atmosphere of gloom among others. She was determined that faith conquer feeling.

Writing to her son Edson, who had a tendency to “look on the dark side” of things, Ellen White reminded him that “with the continual change of circumstances, changes come in our experience; and by these changes we are either elated or depressed. But the change of circumstances has no power to change God’s relation to us. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever; and He asks us to have unquestioning confidence in His love.” Ellen G. White, In Heavenly Places  p. 120.

2. IMPORTANCE OF FASTING (pastor Rajachidabaram)

Often in the Bible, God's people fasted immediately before a major victory, miracle, or answer to prayer. It prepared them for a blessing!

• Moses fasted before he received the Ten Commandments. 

"Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant--the Ten Commandments." Exodus 34:28 (NIV)

• The Israelites fasted before a miraculous victory.

"Some men came and told Jehoshaphat, "A vast army is coming against you from Edom, from the other side of the Sea. It is already in Hazazon Tamar" (that is, EnGedi). Alarmed, Jehoshaphat resolved to inquire of the Lord, and he proclaimed a fast for all Judah." 2 Chronicles 20:2-3 (NIV)

* Daniel fasted in order to receive guidance from God.

"So I turned to the Lord God and pleaded with him in prayer and petition, in fasting, and in sackcloth and ashes." Daniel 9:3 (NIV)

"While I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice. He instructed me and said to me, 'Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding' Daniel 9:21-22 (NIV)

The Daniel Fast

The Daniel Fast is based upon the prophet Daniel’s fasting experiences as recorded in the Bible.

While we don’t know Daniel’s complete menu, we are told a few things. In Daniel 1, Daniel chose

not to eat the royal food that he was being served and ate only vegetables and drank water.

Another time (in Daniel 10:2, 3) he deprived himself of choice food, meat, and wine as he sought the Lord in prayer. Most commentaries believe “choice food” would have been bread and

sweets.

• Nehemiah fasted before beginning a major building project.

"When I heard these things, I sat down and wept. For some days I mourned and fasted and prayed before the God of heaven." Nehemiah 1:4 (NIV)

• Jesus fasted during His victory over temptation. 

"For forty wilderness days and nights he was test…

Ellen White also has written a number of reasons why and when we should  have  fasting.

• The first Christians fasted during-decision making times. "While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, 'Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.' So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off." Acts 13:2-3 (NIV)

Consider the following:

• We should fast when searching out the truth of Scripture so our understanding is clear.

• We should fast when seeking heavenly wisdom that God has promised.

• We should fast when seeking God’s direction in making important plans.

• We should fast when dedicating our talents to God’s service.

• We should fast when requesting God’s help in crisis.

• We should fast when contending with demonic oppression.

• We should fast when seeking God for more laborers for the harvest.

• We should fast for unity among church members.

• We should fast when seeking heart cleansing and spiritual renewal.

• We should fast when seeking to overcome…

• We should fast when seeking to develop an appetite for plain food.

• We should fast when seeking to conquer a disease (only for a meal or two).

• We should fast over our decaying zeal and languishing spirituality.

• We should fast as we seek a deeper walk with God in the last days.

• We should fast when seeking to see the lost brought into the Kingdom.

Time for fasting and Prayer: 

Now and onward till the close of time the people of God should be more earnest, more wide-awake, not trusting in their own wisdom, but in the wisdom of their Leader. They should set aside days for fasting and prayer. Entire abstinence from food may not be required, but they should eat sparingly of the most simple food.—Counsels on Diet and Foods, 188, 189 (1904). {LDE 82.2}

The true fasting which should be recommended to all is abstinence from every stimulating kind of food, and the proper use of wholesome, simple food, which God has provided in abundance. Men need to think less of what they shall eat and drink of temporal food, and much more in regard to the food from heaven, that will give tone and vitality to the whole religious experience.—Medical Ministry, 283 (1896). {LDE 82.3}

Now and onward till the close of time the people of God should be more earnest, more wide-awake, not trusting in their own wisdom, but in the wisdom of their Leader. 

They should set aside days for fasting and prayer. Entire abstinence from food may not be required, but they should eat sparingly of the most simple food.—Counsels on Diet and Foods, 188, 189 (1904). LDE 82.2

The true fasting which should be recommended to all is abstinence from every stimulating kind of food, and the proper use of wholesome, simple food, which God has provided in abundance. 

Men need to think less of what they shall eat and drink of temporal food, and much more in regard to the food from heaven, that will give tone and vitality to the whole religious experience.—Medical Ministry, 283 (1896).


In addition to fasting when specific problems or issues arise, there is also an advance fasting we

might consider. This is what Christ did in the wilderness for 40 days before He started His

ministry. This is what we should do before we make big decisions, or before we go forward in our

work, as we want to make sure we have God’s full blessing upon our lives.

Prayer and fasting should go hand in hand! Prayer is the means by which we grasp the invisible

things of God, while fasting is the means by which we let loose and cast away the visible things

that we are prone to depend upon. Ultimately, the goal of true fasting should be the fulfillment

of Isaiah 58. This is the kind of fast that God is calling us to.

The true fast is no mere formal service. The Scripture describes the fast that God has

chosen,—“to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the

oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke;” to “draw out thy soul to the hungry,

and satisfy the afflicted soul.” Isaiah 58:6, 10. Here is set forth the very spirit and

character of the work of Christ. His whole life was a sacrifice of Himself for the saving of

the world. Whether fasting in the wilderness of temptation or eating with the publicans

at Matthew’s feast, He was giving His life for the redemption of the lost. Not in idle mourning, in mere bodily humiliation and multitudinous sacrifices, is the true spirit of devotion manifested, but it is shown in the surrender of self in willing service to God and man (Ellen G. White, The Desire of Ages, p. 278).

3. PRAYER AND IMPORTANCE OF MORNING AND EVENING WORSHIP ( Pastor Anil Lakra, Bihar)

Mark 1:3 “And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed.”

 Luke 5:16 “And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and prayed.”

Luke 6:12 “And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God.”

Luke 9:28 “And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.” 

Luke 9:29 “And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.”

PRAYER AND WORSHIP ARE ESSENTIAL TO SPIRITUAL GROWTH.—Seek every opportunity to go where prayer is wont to be made. Those who are really seeking for communion with God will be seen in the prayer meeting, faithful to do their duty and earnest and anxious to reap all the benefits they can gain. They will improve every opportunity of placing themselves where they can receive the rays of light from heaven.—(Steps to Christ, 98.) {Pr 198.1} 

Private prayer, family prayer, prayer in public gatherings for the worship of God—all are essential. And we are to live our prayers. We are to co-operate with Christ in His work.—(Testimonies for the Church, vol. 7, 239.) {Pr 198.2} 

In our devotional meetings, our voices should express by prayer and praise our adoration of the heavenly Father, that all may know that we worship God in simplicity and truth, and in the beauty of holiness.—(Counsels to Teachers, Parents, and Students, 245.) {Pr 198.3} 

Let small companies assemble in the evening, at noon, or in the Early morning to study the Bible. Let them have a season of prayer, that they may be strengthened, enlightened, and sanctified by the Holy Spirit. This work Christ wants to have done in the heart of every worker. If you yourselves will open the door to receive it, a great blessing will come to you. Angels of God will be in your assembly. You will feed upon the leaves of the tree of life. What testimonies you may bear of the loving acquaintance made with your fellow workers in these precious seasons when seeking the blessing of God. Let each tell his experience in simple words. This will bring more comfort and joy to the soul than all the pleasant instruments of music that could be brought into the churches. Christ will come into your hearts. It is by this means only that you can maintain your integrity.—(Testimonies for the Church, vol. 7, 195.) {Pr 198.4} 

Prepare for eternity with such zeal as you have not yet manifested. Educate your mind to love the Bible, to love the prayer meeting, to love the hour of meditation, and, above all, the hour when the soul communes with God. Become heavenly-minded if you would unite with the heavenly choir in the mansions above.—(Testimonies for the Church, vol. 2, 267.) {Pr 199.1} 

When the Spirit of God shall work upon the heart, cleansing the soul-temple of its defilement of worldliness and pleasure-loving, all will be seen in the prayer meeting, faithful to do their duty and earnest and anxious to reap all the benefit they can gain. The faithful worker for the Master will improve every opportunity to place himself directly under the rays of light from the throne of God, and this light will be reflected upon others.—(Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, 461.) {Pr 199.2} 

GOD’S PRESENCE MAKES TIMES OF PRAYER AND PUBLIC WORSHIP SACRED.—True reverence for God is inspired by a sense of His infinite greatness and a realization of His presence. With this sense of the Unseen the heart of every child should be deeply impressed. The hour and place of prayer and the services of public worship the child should be taught to regard as sacred because God is there. And as reverence is manifested in attitude and demeanor, the feeling that inspires it will be deepened.—(Education, 242, 243.) {Pr 199.3}

 In every family there should be a fixed time for morning and evening worship. How appropriate it is for parents to gather their children about them before the fast is broken, to thank the heavenly Father for His protection during the night, and to ask Him for His help and guidance and watch care during the day! How fitting, also, when evening comes, for parents and children to gather once more before Him and thank Him for the blessings of the day that is past! CG 152.5

Morning and evening the heavenly universe takes notice of every praying household. 67Manuscript 19, 1900.

Prayer Makes a Hedge About Children—

In the morning the Christian's first thoughts should be upon God. Worldly labor and self-interest should be secondary. Children should be taught to respect and reverence the hour of prayer.... It is the duty of Christian parents, morning and evening, by earnest prayer and persevering faith, to make a hedge about their children. They should patiently instruct them—kindly and untiringly teach them how to live in order to please God.  CG 549.3


4. TEMPTATION AND SENSES

(Taken from Patriarch and Prophet Chapter 3)


NOTE:  GUARD OUR 6 SENSES

Serpent tempts Eve through her 6 senses

Eye (Sight)--------Fruit was pleasant and beautiful in her eyes, good for food

Ear (Hear)-------- But the serpent continued, in a musical voice, with subtle praise of her surpassing loveliness; and his words were not displeasing. Instead of fleeing from the spot she lingered wonderingly to hear a serpent speak..

Mouth (Taste)----------- and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat.” It was grateful to the taste, and as she ate,

Nose (Smell) ------ Smell interpret taste (flavor)

Touch----- and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, .... plug the fruits hands filled with forbidden fruit (Became agent for Satan to tempt her husband)

Common Sense (Thought)---She felt apprehension but dismissed her fear, eve distrust God's love and doubt His wisdom.  The fruit was very beautiful, and she questioned with herself (doubt) why God had withheld it from them. 

No longer (Satan) free to stir up rebellion in heaven, Satan's enmity against God found a new field in plotting the ruin of the human race. In the happiness and peace of the holy pair in Eden he beheld a vision of the bliss that to him was forever lost. Moved by envy, he determined to incite them to disobedience, and bring upon them the guilt and penalty of sin. He would change their love to distrust and their songs of praise to reproaches against their Maker.... 


Our first parents were not left without a warning of the danger that threatened them. Heavenly messengers opened to them the history of Satan's fall and his plots for their destruction,... It was by disobedience to the just commands of God that Satan and his host had fallen. How important, then, that Adam and Eve should honor that law.. The law of God is as sacred as God Himself. It is a revelation of His will, a transcript of His character, the expression of divine love and wisdom...


The angels warned them to be on their guard against the devices of Satan, for his efforts to ensnare them would be unwearied. While they were obedient to God the evil one could not harm them; for, if need be, every angel in heaven would be sent to their help...


The tree of knowledge had been made a test of their obedience and their love to God... Satan was not to follow them with continual temptations; he could have access to them only at the forbidden tree...


In order to accomplish his work unperceived, Satan chose to employ as his medium the serpent—a disguise well adapted for his purpose of deception. The serpent was then one of the wisest and most beautiful creatures on the earth. It had wings, and while flying through the air presented an appearance of dazzling brightness, having the color and brilliancy of burnished gold. Resting in the rich-laden branches of the forbidden tree and regaling (entertain or amuse (someone) with talk) itself with the delicious fruit, it was an object to arrest the attention and delight the eye of the beholder. Thus in the garden of peace lurked (remain hidden so as to wait in ambush for someone the destroyer, watching for his prey). 


The angels had cautioned Eve to beware of separating herself from her husband while occupied in their daily labor in the garden; with him she would be in less danger from temptation than if she were alone. But absorbed in her pleasing task, she unconsciously wandered from his side... 


On perceiving that she was alone, she felt an apprehension of danger, but dismissed her fears, deciding that she had sufficient wisdom and strength to discern evil and to withstand it. Unmindful of the angels’ caution, she soon found herself gazing with mingled curiosity and admiration upon the forbidden tree.....


The fruit was very beautiful, and she questioned with herself why God had withheld it from them. Now was the tempter's opportunity. As if he were able to discern the workings of her mind, he addressed her: “Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” Eve was surprised and startled as she thus seemed to hear the echo of her thoughts. But the serpent continued, in a musical voice, with subtle praise of her surpassing loveliness; and his words were not displeasing. Instead of fleeing from the spot she lingered wonderingly to hear a serpent speak...


To the tempter's ensnaring question she replied: “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” 


... He himself had eaten of the forbidden fruit, and as a result had acquired the power of speech. And he insinuated that the Lord jealously desired to withhold it from them, lest they should be exalted to equality with Himself...


Such has been Satan's work from the days of Adam to the present, and he has pursued it with great success. He tempts men to distrust God's love and to doubt His wisdom....


Satan represented to the holy pair that they would be gainers by breaking the law of God. Do we not today hear similar reasoning? Many talk of the narrowness of those who obey God's commandments, while they themselves claim to have broader ideas and to enjoy greater liberty... Satan claimed to have received great good by eating of the forbidden fruit, but he did not let it appear that by transgression he had become an outcast from heaven. Though he had found sin to result in infinite loss, he concealed his own misery in order to draw others into the same position...


Eve really believed the words of Satan, but her belief did not save her from the penalty of sin. She disbelieved the words of God, and this was what led to her fall.


 In the judgment men will not be condemned because they conscientiously believed a lie, but because they did not believe the truth, because they neglected the opportunity of learning what is truth....


The serpent plucked the fruit of the forbidden tree and placed it in the hands of the half-reluctant Eve. Then he reminded her of her own words, that God had forbidden them to touch it, lest they die. She would receive no more harm from eating the fruit, he declared, than from touching it. Perceiving no evil results from what she had done, Eve grew bolder. When she “saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat.” 

It was grateful to the taste, and as she ate, she seemed to feel a vivifying power, and imagined herself entering upon a higher state of existence. Without a fear she plucked and ate. And now, having herself transgressed, she became the agent of Satan in working the ruin of her husband. In a state of strange, unnatural excitement, with her hands filled with the forbidden fruit, she sought his presence, and related all that had occurred. 


HOW ARE WE GUARDING OUR SENSES ?????

 I made a covenant with mine eyes;... Job31:1

Touch not; taste not; handle not; 1 Colossian 2:21

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body. Mathew 6:22

 cecilia wilson Charles: Few points :
 
1. Eve disregarded the caution given by angels to not leave Adam

2. She wandered ' unconsciously' - one of the famous preachers said our most unconscious urge is the urge to sin and hence , we need to be conscious deliberate, Christians, knowing what we're doing every single minute

3. "she felt an apprehension of danger, but dismissed her fears, deciding that she had sufficient wisdom and strength to discern evil and to withstand it. " PP 53.5 -. **This dismissal of fear could be the dismissal of the voice of holy spirit which many of us will get this feeling of danger when we give into temptation, we are not to dismiss them
** Relying on self..... - Never to rely on self for discerning good and bad

3. She questioned herself as to why God had told her not to eat of the fruit - the question is ok coz God wants us to reason. She should have asked God, he would have imparted the knowledge. ( If Adam and Eve had never touched the forbidden tree, the Lord would have imparted to them knowledge,—knowledge upon which rested no curse of sin, knowledge that would have brought them everlasting joy. The only knowledge they gained by their disobedience was a knowledge of sin and its results BC 1083.5)
4. Satan presented a gain. But the problem here was, the gain was to be obtained by *breaking the law  - Satan represented to the holy pair that they would be gainers by breaking the law of God.  PP 55.1
So, whenever we are presented with some gain we need to make sure it does not compromise on our obedience
 They covered themselves with fig leaves .....what does the fig leaves represent?

This is the covering that the transgressors of the law of God have used since the days of Adam and Eve's disobedience. They have sewed together fig-leaves to cover their nakedness, caused by transgression. The fig-leaves represent the arguments used to cover disobedience. When the Lord calls the attention of men and women to the truth, the making of fig-leaves into aprons will be begun, to hide the nakedness of the soul. But the nakedness of the sinner is not covered. All the arguments pieced together by all who have interested themselves in this flimsy work will come to naught (The Review and Herald, November 15, 1898).
Satan flattered Eve. We are not to flatter ourselves or give place for others to praise us. Our only safeguard is by giving all Glory and honor to God.
 Eve was stunned by two things - the fruit and the serpent. These two caught her attraction. 

Satan Hypnotized Adam and Eve—Satan tempted the first Adam in Eden, and Adam reasoned with the enemy, thus giving him the advantage. Satan exercised his power of hypnotism over Adam and Eve, and this power he strove to exercise over Christ. But after the word of Scripture was quoted, Satan knew that he had no chance of triumphing.—Letter 159, 1903. (The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 5:1081.) 2MCP 713.1

Satan used hypnotism. 

Even today, media is one of the most common way we could get hypnotized. We might feel watching movies/Disney's/ etc will not affect us, but unaware we're being hypnotized by Satan.
The serpent was wisest and most beautiful

Satan used the most beautiful things and best things to deceive us
Good morning dear DMM family.. Happy and blessed Sabbath to u all..

5. MINISTRY OF HEALING first few chapters. 
 Mrs Cecila Wilson 

Our mission : 
"To preach good tidings unto the meek;... to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; to proclaim the year of Jehovah's favor; ... to comfort all that mourn." MH 16
1) All the disciples of Jesus are called to be Medical Missionaries - Healing ministry is not just physical healing. from the above quote we can understand it's much more than that and every follower of Christ is called to do this work. "The evidence of His divinity was seen in His ministry to the needs of suffering humanity.  MH 35.2" 
We are all to be partakers of his divine nature and hence ministering to the Suffering humanity will Show how much of christ's divine nature we have in us.

2) CHRIST OUR EXAMPLE - Let us look Into Some methods Christ used Which made him a Successful Medical missionary.
3) - Everything of Christ's Life was Subordinate to the will of his Father.- We should reach a point where our will is God's will!! For this is Godliness, and not to forget to give Glory to God always!
4) Christ's work was not restricted to time or place.  - Let us be Available for our Brethren all the time possible.
5) His Life was a Life of SELF SACRIFICE.- May We learn to sacrifice time, worldly pleasures, comfort, money, luxury etc for the Service of our brethren
6) He was patient and cheerful - Disclaimer : you'll have more Stressful situations on your way when you want to be patient...may we ever be patient in our work (Healing is a process and will take time, must wait patiently for the results) and Ever cheerfull with our words and tender and Courteous in our actions
7) Preference for the poor : But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:   14  And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. 
8) Simultaneously he was finding ways to reach the rich also.
9) Used every occassion of HEALING to sow the WORD Of GOD in their hearts. - Our Subject Should always be centered on the WORD OF GOD.
10) Used simple, clear language that was easy to understand. 
11) He sought access to the people by the pathway of their most familiar associations MH 23.1 The truth was
Presented in such a way that it was ever to be intertwined with the thoughts of the hearers.
12) He did not manifest any difference- Rich, poor, Jew, Gentile, Relatives, Stranger - He put in same effort in helping all of them. 
13) He paid attention to every single act- Eg allowing the little children to be blessed by him.  Little did the disciples know that these little flocks lived to become HIS disciples in the future.
14) NATURE : a) Jesus Spent quality time in  praying to God and spending time with him in nature. Praying for suffering humanity. Our work doesn't by giving advice, treatment options, Or praying with them. We NEED TO PRAY EARNESTLY FOR THEM, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE SAME BURDEN WE WOULD PRAY FOR OURSELVES.
b) He learn various lessons from nature which he used as parables.
c) Principles of Kingdom of God can be understood by spending time in nature 
d) He sough to rest from his busy day in nature.

We are called to 'stand apart' from the world, but we are not to separate ourselves from the people at the same and especially sinners, because Christ died for you and I even when we were sinners.

Question : Scenario :
 You know a very close and important association of yours maybe your parent or spouse or sibling to be leading a very immoral life. You know nothing can be done of him. 
- Do we separate and cut ourselves from that relationship? 

Angelish: In my understanding we should not be separated,, we can learn a lesson from Jesus forgiving the adulterous women and writing down the sins of those accusers. Seeing the love and care of Jesus, she was changed.

cecilia wilson Charles: As a rule, those who choose for their friends and companions, persons who reject Christ and trample upon God's law, eventually become of the same mind and spirit. We should ever feel a deep interest in the salvation of the impenitent, and should manifest toward them a spirit of kindness and courtesy; but we can safely choose for our friends only those who are the friends of God (The Signs of the Times, May 19, 1881).

Angelish: We can  also  see an example of mix multitude with the Israelites in the wilderness for flesh. 

It's very true  in all aspect sometimes evil  try's to  dominate.
Thank you sister for bringing out that points.

6. "How to tell God is leading " either us or anybody, (Mrs. Monica) 

Their family are in Nepal with 2 lovely kids. Doing their publications of Spirit of prophecy  books in Nepali. Let's us all remember them in our prayers. Thank you 
Today for the sabbath discussion we are going to confer on the topic "How to tell if God is leading?" It can be us or anybody else. 

1. You can meet people who profess to be sanctified, holy. They will state to you wonderful exercises of mind to show you that the Lord is leading them and teaching them. Then how can you tell that the Lord is leading them?

2. There are many voices that we hear in the Christian world, how to know which is the voice of God. (The truth) 

3. Christ has warned us of false prophets who will come to us in His name, saying that they are Christ. How do we recognize them and see if they are led of God.

4. The miracles that we see in our Christian sphere, how do we know, if it is from God or from Satan.. Because when we read the Bible we discover that Satan will work miracles right in our sight, claiming that he is Christ.

These are the points we are going to ponder on having the topic in mind "How to tell if God is leading".

How did the disciples recognize Jesus to be the Son of God and how did others recognise the disciples to be anointed of God and today how can we recognize somebody to be led by God??

Today, sadly many of our Adventist pastors, elders and members are so convinced with the miracles, sermons and services in other churches (apart from Seventh-day Adventist church) that they believe them to be of God. How do we know of a surety they are not of God or from God??

Hoping that you all will participate and give your insights in this topic from the Bible and Spirit Of Prophecy..
Thank you and blessed Sabbath..

 Angelish: Nor can we trust impressions. The voice or spirit that says to a man, You are under no obligation to obey the law of God; you are holy and sinless, while he is trampling on the divine law, is not the voice of Jesus; for He declares: “I have kept my Father's commandments” (John 15:10). And John testifies: “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him” (1 John 2:4).  2SM 49. 4

 Angelish: Then how can these manifestations of great power, and these wonderful impressions, be accounted for, except on the ground that they are given through the influence of that miracle-working spirit that has gone forth to deceive the whole world, and infatuate them with strong delusion that they shall believe a lie? He is pleased when men and women claim to possess great spiritual power, and yet disregard the law of God, because through their disobedience they mislead others, and he can use them as effective agents in his work.—The Signs of the Times, July 21, 1887. 2SM 49.5

 Cecilia Wilson Charles: If men had been willing to receive the truth so plainly stated in the Scriptures concerning the nature of man and the state of the dead, they would see in the claims and manifestations of spiritualism the working of Satan with power and signs and lying wonders. . . .Many will be confronted by the spirits of devils personating beloved relatives or friends and declaring the most dangerous heresies. These visitants will appeal to our tenderest sympathies and will work miracles to sustain their pretensions. We must be prepared to withstand them with the Bible truth that the dead know not anything and that they who thus appear are the spirits of devils.{GC 559, 560

 Cecilia Wilson Charles: KJV Isaiah 8:20
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Angelish: We also should identify through the Fruit of the Spirit. This verse Galatian 5:22-23- Against such there is no law. When  he or she have love, they will keep Gods law, even be temperate

Cecilia Wilson Charles: None need be deceived. The law of God is as sacred as His throne, and by it every man who cometh into the world is to be judged. There is no other standard by which to test character. “If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” Now, shall the case be decided according to the Word of God, or shall man's pretensions be credited? Says Christ, “By their fruits ye shall know them.” If those through whom cures are performed, are disposed, on account of these manifestations, to excuse their neglect of the law of God, and continue in disobedience, though they have power to any and every extent, it does not follow that they have the great power of God. On the contrary, it is the miracle-working power of the great deceiver. He is a transgressor of the moral law, and employs every device that he can master to blind men to its true character. We are warned that in the last days he will work with signs and lying wonders. And he will continue these wonders until the close of probation that he may point to them as evidence that he is an angel of light and not of darkness.5BC 1099.3 

Brethren, we must beware

Brethren, we must beware of the pretended holiness that permits transgression of the law of God. Those cannot be sanctified who trample that law under their feet, and judge themselves by a standard of their own devising (The Review and Herald, November 17, 1885).






7. Going back to original diet (Mr. John Ranjith Mysore)

Is meat eating sin?

 I advise every Sabbath keeping canvasser to avoid meat eating, not because it is regarded as sin to eat meat, but because it is not healthful. The animal creation is groaning.—Manuscript 15, 1889.

Step by Step back to the original design

Again and again I have been shown that God is bringing His people back to His original design, that is, not to subsist on the flesh of dead animals. He would have us teach people a better way.... If meat is discarded, if the taste is not educated in that direction, if a liking for fruits and grains is encouraged, it will soon be as God in the beginning designed it should be. No meat will be used by His people. CG 383.

Again and again I have been shown that God is trying to lead us back, step by step, to His original design—that man should subsist upon the natural products of the earth. Among those who are waiting for the coming of the Lord, meat eating will eventually be done away; flesh will cease to form a part…

 Going back to original plan patterns in Bible

Spirit of Prophecy never says anything which is not in harmony with scriptures.  Is Going back to original diet Biblical? Through out the Bible we can see the principles of going back to the blue print.

Divorce is not in God’s original plan.

Though He allowed it He calls them to the original plan for marriage. Matthew 19 3The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 

Wherefore the… Meat Eating is allowed because of man’s lust. But God calls back to original diet.


But after the fall, men chose to follow their own sinful desires; and as the result, crime and wretchedness rapidly increased……. They delighted in destroying the life of animals; and the use of flesh for food rendered them still more cruel and blood-thirsty, until they came to regard human life with astonishing indifference. PP 92
 The human family has been growing more and more self-indulgent, until health has been most successfully sacrificed upon the altar of lustful appetite. The inhabitants of the Old World were intemperate in eating and drinking. They would have flesh-meats, although God had given them no permission to eat animal food. TSDF 62

The people who lived be…God exhibits His desire for return to the original diet in Bible

Further Ellen White writes in the same passage “He did not prohibit their eating meat” As Ellen White writes since they were already perverting their diet with meat He allowed them to eat but only animals which will be healthy to eat i.e., clean animals. 

Now in Isaiah 65 He tells that He wants to go back to original diet.

 17For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. (this is not the new heaven which and new earth which comes after 1000 years) 

20There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die a hundred years old; but the sinner being a hundred years old shall be accursed. (see there will be death and sinner. In new heaven which and new earth which comes after 1000 years there won’t be death and sinner) 

23They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them. (There won’t be Child birth in new heaven) Now see this… 25The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD. If god wants Wolf and Lion to go back to vegetarian diet what about humans….

    Again in Isa 22: 12 And in that day did the Lord GOD of hosts call to weeping, and to mourning, and to baldness, and to girding with sackcloth: 

13And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine: let us eat and drink; for to-morrow we shall die. 

14And it was revealed in mine ears by the LORD of hosts, Surely this iniquity shall not be purged from you till ye die, saith the Lord GOD of hosts. Bible say it is an iniquity to eat flesh when God wants us to afflict ourselves to receive the sealing of God. 

Read Lev 23. 27-29, isa 22.12-14, Eze 9.4-8 & Rev 7.3-4. In Isaiah God calls this as iniquity. Now is the day of atonement when God wants Adventist to sigh and cry for the Adventist church and the world.

Angelish: The controlling power of appetite will prove the ruin of thousands, when, if they had conquered on this point, they would have had moral power to gain the victory over every other temptation of Satan. But those who are slaves to appetite will fail in perfecting Christian character. The continual transgression of man for six thousand years has brought sickness, pain, and death as its fruits. And as we near the close of time, Satan's temptation to indulge appetite will be more powerful and more difficult to overcome. 36 Counsels on Health, 574.

Angelish: If Seventh-day Adventists practiced what they profess to believe, if they were sincere health reformers, they would indeed be a spectacle to the world, to angels, and to men. And they would show a far greater zeal for the salvation of those who are ignorant of the truth.

Angelish: Greater reforms should be seen among the people who claim to be looking for the soon appearing of Christ. Health reform is to do among our people a work which it has not yet done. There are those who ought to be awake to the danger of meat-eating, who are still eating the flesh of animals, thus endangering the physical, mental, and spiritual health. Many who are now only half converted on the question of meat-eating will go from God's people, to walk no more with them. 35 Counsels on Health, 575.

8.WHY MANNA WAS PROVIDED FOR THE ISRAELITES: (Mrs. Angelish)

MANNA:

He fed them with bread from heaven; “man did eat angels' food. CDF 

Why do we need to study the past life of Israelites?

Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1 Corinthian 10:11

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes1:9
 Are we Modern Israelites?

For 40 years, unbelief, murmuring, and rebellion shut out ancient Israel from the land of Canaan. The same sins have delayed modern Israel from entering into the heavenly Canaan. In neither case were the promises of God at fault. Manuscript 4. 1883 (Ev. 696)
Why manna was provided for Israelites?

Despite the availability of milk, meat from their live stocks, manna was provided:

In Egypt their taste had become perverted. God designed to restore their appetite to a pure, healthy state, in order that they might enjoy the simple fruits that were given to Adam and Eve in Eden. He was about to establish them in a second Eden, a goodly land, where they might enjoy the fruits and grains that He would provide for them. He purposed to remove the feverish diet upon which they had subsisted in Egypt; for He wished them to be in perfect health and soundness when they entered the goodly land .... 1Bible Commentary 1102.3
 How long was Manna provided?

And the children of Israel did eat manna forty years, until they came to a land inhabited, they did eat manna, until they came unto the borders of the land of Canaan. Exodus 16:35
[11:03 PM, 5/13/2022] Angelish: What was their diets in Egypt?

3 And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the Lord in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh pots, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger. Exodus 16:3

5 We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlic.  Number 11:5-6
 What was Israelites murmuring for?

6 But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes. Number 11:4-6

For ye have wept in the ears of the Lord, saying, Who shall give us flesh to eat? for it was well with us in Egypt: therefore the Lord will give you flesh, and ye shall eat. Number 11:18

How long were quails provided? 

“At the giving of the manna, just before Israel reached Sinai, the Lord had granted them flesh in answer to their clamors; but it was furnished them for only one day.” Patriarchs and Prophets, 378.

 And Moses said, This shall be, when the Lord shall give you in the evening flesh to eat, and in the morning bread to the full; for that the Lord heareth your murmurings which ye murmur against him: and what are we? your murmurings are not against us, but against the Lord. Exodus 16:8
 
2nd time

19 Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten days, nor twenty days; Number 11:19-20

20. But even a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it be loathsome (you dislike) unto you: because that ye have despised the Lord which is among you, and have wept before him, saying, Why came we forth out of Egypt? Numbers 11:18-20
Who felt the lusting of flesh?

4 And the mixt multitude that was among them fell a lusting: and the children of Israel also wept again, and said, Who shall give us flesh to eat? Number 11:4
 Is there a record of any negative results from eating flesh food at that time? 

33 And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere (before) it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague. Number 11:33

 What teachings we can draw from Israelites?

When the God of Israel brought His people out of Egypt, He withheld flesh meats from them in a great measure, but gave them bread from heaven and water from the flinty rock. With this they were not satisfied. They loathed the food given them and wished themselves back in Egypt, where they could sit by the fleshpots. They preferred to endure slavery, and even death, rather than to be deprived of flesh. God granted their desire, giving them flesh, and leaving them to eat till their gluttony produced a plague, from which many of them died. CH 111.1
 Why God is trying to lead us?

Again and again I have been shown that God is trying to lead us back, step by step, to His original design—that man should subsist upon the natural products of the earth. Among those who are waiting for the coming of the Lord, meat-eating will eventually be done away; flesh will cease to form a part of their diet. We should ever keep this end in view, and endeavor to work steadily toward it. Counsels on Health, 450.

 The controlling power of appetite will prove the ruin of thousands, when, if they had conquered on this point, they would have had moral power to gain the victory over every other temptation of Satan. But those who are slaves to appetite will fail in perfecting Christian character. The continual transgression of man for six thousand years has brought sickness, pain, and death as its fruits. And as we near the close of time, Satan's temptation to indulge appetite will be more powerful and more difficult to overcome. 36 Counsels on Health, 574.

 If Seventh-day Adventists practiced what they profess to believe, if they were sincere health reformers, they would indeed be a spectacle to the world, to angels, and to men. And they would show a far greater zeal for the salvation of those who are ignorant of the truth.

What happened to Israelites?

- Lost sight of God

- Lost sight of their call, their mission/service

- Lost sight of the Promise Land

They focused too much on the here and now, and lost focus on the there and then

God did not design that His people, Israel, should wander 40 years in the wilderness. He promised to lead them directly to the land of Canaan, and establish them there as holy, healthy, happy people. But those to whom it was first preached, went not in because of unbelief, Their hearts were filled with murmuring, rebellion, and hatred, and He could not fulfil His covenant with them ...

Anita Mathew: Eche, what is that component that is present both in tea and in meat (the chemical)?

Hypoxanthine and other similar substances, such as inosinic acid and guanylic acid, are present in meat. They have a chemical structure similar to that of caffeine in coffee or the theobromine in cocoa, with similar effects. They are central nervous system stimulants they are addictive.

The toxic metabolites of animal products that are flowing through the body, once consumption of animal products is dramatically lessened or eliminated, the presence of these toxic metabolites creates this hangover feeling.”

Even so with fats, blood and the spices gravies

 Manna for modern Israelites: 

The original diets is also a type of Manna, because God is trying to us back step by step to His original products of the earth, as God was trying to restore the perverted taste for the Israelites.
The Lord will teach many in all parts of the world to combine fruits, grains, and vegetables into foods that will sustain life and will not bring disease. Is His design that the food treasures of each country shall be so prepared that they can be used in the countries for which they are suited.  7T 124.3

As God gave manna from heaven to sustain the children of Israel, so He will now give His people in different places skill and wisdom to use the productions of these countries in preparing foods to take the place of meat.  7T 124.3

It is the Lord's design that in every place men and women shall be encouraged to develop their talents by preparing healthful foods from the natural products of their own section of the country.  CD 96.3

Now why is this important?

They will be able to teach the poor how to provide themselves with foods that will take the place of flesh meats. Those thus helped can in turn instruct others.  Such a work will yet be done with consecrated zeal and energy. If it had been done before, there would today be many more people in the truth, and many more who could give instruction.  CD 96.3

9. NUTRITION AND MIND (Mrs. Asha Paul)

I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. Ps 139: 14

Our brain is the most amazing organ and everything that goes into our mouth has a direct affect on the brain.

Therefore it is our responsibility to take proper care of it . Especially the FRONTAL LOBE  as it is here intellect, reasoning, judgement and will takes place. ( Will is the most powerful gift given to man by God ) it should be gently guided and directed .

What affects the Frontal lobe ? DIET

It is necessary that we take care of our mind . 

Daniel and friends are examples in the Bible who maintained the diet and were found  Ten times wiser than others .

One of the reason Jesus was able to resist…

A Well-nourished and Healthy Brain—The brain is the organ and instrument of the mind, and controls the whole body. In order for the other parts of the system to be healthy, the brain must be healthy. And in order for the brain to be healthy, the blood must be pure. If by correct habits of eating and drinking the blood is kept pure, the brain will be properly nourished.—Manuscript 24, 1900. (MM 291.)

Keeping our frontal lobe in healthy and strong state will keep our mind stayed on God and we can receive the blessings of perfect peace  ( Isaiah 26 :3 ) 

Having the mind which was in Christ ( Phi 2:5)

Wavering Mind Beginning of Temptation—The beginning of yielding to temptation is in the sin of permitting the mind to waver, to be inconsistent in your trust in God. The wicked one is ever watching for a chance to misrepresent God and to attract the mind to that which is forbidden. 1 MCP 30.4

The work to which Christ calls us is to the work of progressive conquest over spiritual evil in our characters. Natural tendencies are to be overcome.... Appetite and passion must be conquered, and the will must be placed wholly on the side of Christ.—.The Review and Herald, June 14, 1892. (Our High Calling, 87.)

 What Religion Does—True religion ennobles the mind, refines the taste, sanctifies the judgment, and makes its possessor a partaker of the purity and the holiness of Heaven. It brings angels near and separates us more and more from the spirit and influence of the world. It enters into all the acts and relations of life and gives us the “spirit of a sound mind,” and the result is happiness and peace.—The Signs of the Times, October 23, 1884. (Counsels on Health, 629, 630.)

Increases Intellectual Capabilities—As in the case of Daniel, in exact proportion as the spiritual character is developed, the intellectual capabilities are increased.—The Review and Herald, March 22, 1898.

 It Improves the Physical Health—Let the mind become intelligent and the will be placed on the Lord's side, and there will be a wonderful improvement in the physical health.—The Medical Missionary, December 1, 1892. (Counsels on Health, 504.)

One whose mind is quiet and satisfied in God is on the highway to health. To have the consciousness that the eye of the Lord is upon us and that His ear is open to our prayers is a satisfaction indeed. To know that we have a never-failing friend to whom we can confide all the secrets of the soul is a happiness which words can never express.—The Signs of the Times, October 23, 1884. (Counsels on Health, 628.)

Brain Controls the Body—There are many invalids today who will ever remain so because they cannot be convinced that their experience is not reliable. The brain is the capital of the body, the seat of all the nervous forces and of mental action. The nerves proceeding from the brain control the body. By the brain nerves, mental impressions are conveyed to all the nerves of the body as by telegraph wires, and they control the vital action of every part of the system. All the organs of motion are governed by the communications they receive from the brain.—Testimonies for the Church 3:69 (1872).

 The brain nerves which communicate with the entire system are the only medium through which Heaven can communicate to man and affect his inmost life.—Testimonies for the Church 2:347 (1870).

 Satan Strikes at the Perceptive Faculties [See chapter 35, “The Influence of Perception.”]—Satan comes to man with his temptations as an angel of light, as he came to Christ. He has been working to bring man into a condition of physical and moral weakness that he may overcome him with his temptations and then triumph over his ruin. And he has been successful in tempting man to indulge appetite, regardless of the result. He well knows that it is impossible for man to discharge his obligations to God and to his fellowmen while he impairs the faculties God has given him. The brain is the capital of the body. If the perceptive faculties become benumbed through intemperance of any kind, eternal things are not discerned.—The Review and Herald, September 8, 1874. (Messages to Young People, 236.)

The Tyranny of Custom—The strength or the weakness of the mind has very much to do with our usefulness in this world and with our final salvation. The ignorance that has prevailed in regard to God's law in our physical nature is deplorable. Intemperance of any kind is a violation of the laws of our being. Imbecility is prevailing to a fearful extent. Sin is made attractive by the covering of light which Satan throws over it, and he is well pleased when he can hold the Christian world in their daily habits under the tyranny of custom, like the heathen, and allow appetite to govern them.—The Review and Herald, September 8, 1874. (Messages to Young People, 237.)

 The Mind Rightly Trained Wavers Not—The mind must be trained through daily tests to habits of fidelity, to a sense of the claims of right and duty above inclination and pleasure. Minds thus trained do not waver between right and wrong, as the reed trembles in the wind; but as soon as matters come before them, they discern at once that principle is involved, and they instinctively choose the right without long debating the matter. They are loyal because they have trained themselves in habits of faithfulness and truth.—Testimonies for the Church 3:22 (1872).

10. Appeal to mothers (Mrs. Pradeepa Shrikanth)

The mother's work should commence with the infant. She should subdue the will and temper of the child and bring its disposition into subjection. Teach it to obey, and as the child grows older, relax not the hand.5

Before Self-will Grows Strong—Few parents begin early enough to teach their children obedience. The child is usually allowed to get two or three years the start of its parents, who forbear to discipline it, thinking it is too young to learn to obey. But all this time self is growing strong in the little being, and every day makes it a harder task for the parent to gain control of the child.

At a very early age children can comprehend what is plainly and simply told them, and, by kind and judicious  management, can be taught to obey.... The mother should not allow her child to gain an advantage over her in a single instance; and, in order to maintain this authority, it is not necessary to resort to harsh measures; a firm, steady hand and a kindness which convinces the child of your love will accomplish the purpose. But let selfishness, anger, and self-will have their course for the first three years of a child's life, and it will be hard to bring it to submit to wholesome discipline. Its disposition has become soured; it delights in having its own way; parental control is distasteful. These evil tendencies grow with its growth, until, in manhood, supreme selfishness and a lack of self-control place him at the mercy of the evils that run riot in our land.6

Never should they the children be allowed to show their parents disrespect. Self-will should never be permitted to go unrebuked. The future well-being of the child requires kindly, loving, but firm discipline. CG 82.5 - CG 83.1

 If parents or children are ever welcomed into the mansions above, it will be because they have in this world learned to obey the commands of God. CG 84.2

 Instead of sending her children from her that she may not be annoyed by their noise or troubled by their little wants, let the mother plan amusement or light work to employ the active hands and minds. By entering into their feelings and directing their amusements and employments, the mother will gain the confidence of her children; thus she can the more effectually correct wrong habits or check the manifestation of selfishness or passion. A word of caution or reproof spoken at the right time will be of great value. By patient, watchful love she can turn the minds of the children in the right direction, cultivating in them beautiful and attractive traits of character. CT 115.2

 During the first three years of the life of Samuel the prophet, his mother carefully taught him to distinguish between good and evil. By every familiar object surrounding him, she sought to lead his thoughts up to the Creator. In fulfillment of her vow to give her son to the Lord, with great self-denial she placed him under the care of Eli the high priest, to be trained for service in the house of God. Though Samuel's youth was passed at the tabernacle devoted to the worship of God, he was not free from evil influences or sinful example. The sons of Eli feared not God, nor honored their father; but Samuel did not seek their company nor follow their evil ways. His early training led him to choose to maintain his Christian integrity. What a reward was Hannah's! And what an encouragement to faithfulness is her example DG 41.2

 The child Jesus did not receive instruction in the synagogue schools. His mother was His first human teacher. From her lips and from the scrolls of the prophets, He learned of heavenly things. The  very words which He Himself had spoken to Moses for Israel He was now taught at His mother's knee. As He advanced from childhood to youth, He did not seek the schools of the rabbis. He needed not the education to be obtained from such sources; for God was His instructor.—The Desire of Ages, 70 (1898). DG 50.4

 Mothers to Look to God for Strength—If woman looks to God for strength and comfort, and in His fear seeks to perform her daily duties, she will win the respect and confidence of her husband, and see her children coming to maturity honorable men and women, having moral stamina to do right. But mothers who neglect present opportunities, and let their duties and burdens fall upon others, will find that their responsibility remains the same, and they will reap in bitterness what they have sown in carelessness and neglect. There is no chance work in this life; the harvest will be determined by the character of the seed sown DG 195.1

 Jesus a Mother's Best Friend—If mothers would go to Christ more frequently, if they would trust Him more fully, their burdens would be lighter, and they would find rest. Jesus knows the burden of every mother. He is her best friend in every emergency. His everlasting arms support her. That Saviour whose mother struggled with poverty and privation sympathizes with every mother in her work, and hears her earnest prayers. That Saviour who went on a long journey for the purpose of relieving the anxious heart of a Canaanitish woman will do as much for the afflicted mother of today. He who gave back to the widow of Nain her only son as he was being carried to burial is today touched by the bereaved mother's woe. He who wept at the grave of Lazarus, who pardoned Mary Magdalene, who on the cross remembered His mother's needs, who after the resurrection appeared to the weeping women, and made them His messengers, is today woman's best friend, ready to 196  aid her in her need if she will trust in Him.— DG 195.2

11. THE WORK AND THE LIFE STEPS TO CHRIST (JEREMIAH MOSES)

God is the source of life and light and joy to the universe. Like rays of light from the sun, like the streams of water bursting from a living spring, blessings flow out from Him to all His creatures. And wherever the life of God is in the hearts of men, it will flow out to others in love and blessing. SC 77.1

 When it comes to work and life, it is highly possible for us at many a times to run by our own instincts and thoughts on how we manage and balance our life pattern.

 Rather,  a quality- balanced Christian life  can be achieved in regards to a fruitful life by having God as our epicentre

 When the love of Christ is enshrined in the heart, like sweet fragrance it cannot be hidden. Its holy influence will be felt by all with whom we come in contact. The spirit of Christ in the heart is like a spring in the desert, flowing to refresh all and making those who are ready to perish, eager to drink of the water of life. SC 77.3

One important  recommendation is to have the love for Jesus , which will definitely improve our lifestyle

How was Jesus's work and life on this earth? Something that we ought to ponder inorder to get an insight on how our work and life could be in spiritual terms

Love to Jesus will be manifested in a desire to work as He worked for the blessing and uplifting of humanity. It will lead to love, tenderness, and sympathy toward all the creatures of our heavenly Father’s care. SC 77.4

The Saviour’s life on earth was not a life of ease and devotion to Himself, but He toiled with persistent, earnest, untiring effort for the salvation of lost mankind. From the manger to Calvary He followed the path of self-denial and sought not to be released from arduous tasks, painful travels and exhausting care and labor. He said, “The Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give His life a ransom for many.” Matthew 20:28. This was the one great object of His life. Everything else was secondary and subservient. It was His meat and drink to do the will of God and to finish His work. Self and self-interest had no part in His labor. SC 78.1

And at last , this is a take away message for us.... 

You are not to wait for great occasions or to expect extraordinary abilities before you go to work for God. You need not have a thought of what the world will think of you. If your daily life is a testimony to the purity and sincerity of your faith, and others are convinced that you desire to benefit them, your efforts will not be wholly lost. SC 83.1

12. Importance of the laws of health" or "why laws of health"  (Mrs.  Sonia Vinod, Hosur  Tamil Nadu)  

“If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay [it] to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay [it] to heart.” – Malachi 2:2

 “My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. (21) Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. (22) For they [are] life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.” -  Proverbs 4:20-22

Keep it in the midst of thine heart – cherish it.

 “And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I [am] the LORD that healeth thee.” – Exodus 15:26

The promise will be fulfilled when the conditions are obeyed.

 “God has pledged himself to keep this machinery in healthful action, if the human agent will obey his laws, and co-operate with God.” – General Conference Daily Bulletin, February 18, 1897 par. 1 (Periodical)

 “In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;” - Titus 1:2

 There is nothing that is impossible with God, but there is one thing that He cannot do, and that is to “lie”. God who cannot lie has pledged to keep us healthy when we obey Him. Let us pledge Him our loving obedience.

The number of men who left Egypt was 6 lakhs. With the women and children there must have been at least 18- 20 lakhs. The Bible records that there was not a feeble one among them. Then why was it that there were only two that entered Caanan.

 “Surely there shall not one of these men of this evil generation see that good land, which I sware to give unto your fathers, (36) Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh; he shall see it, and to him will I give the land that he hath trodden upon, and to his children, because he hath wholly followed the LORD.” Deuteronomy 1: 35, 36

 Only two obeyed wholly or completely and so they entered. Health is not the condition to go to heaven. The condition to go to heaven is obedience. But health is a by product of obedience.

We are on the way to the heavenly Caanan. None who obeys partially will enter in. God requires complete obedience.

 Let us make a decision to choose life.

Angelish: Thank you for these points. 

1. We are the temple of God

2. Physical laws are equal to moral laws

3. Connection between soul prosperity and health

4. We are to present ourselves as a living sacrifice

5. In order to be a saint

6. To Give God the glory due to Him

13. Topic:  What Are The Seven Deadly Sins In Our Life? (By- Mr. Dreason Shylla, Megalaya)

1. Lust

What is Lust?

Lust is a strong passion or longing, especially for sexual desires.

The Bible speaks about lust in 2 Timothy 2:22, “Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love [and] peace...”

James 1:14,15 says

14. but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. 15. Then, after desire has conceived, it birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

Now, we know that lust is a deadly sin that can harm our relationship with God. 

What can we do to stop Lust?

self-control cures lust by controlling passion and leveraging that energy for the good of others.

2. Gluttony

Gluttony is an excessive and ongoing eating of food or drink.

1 Corinthians 10:31 says, “Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.”

Gluttony not only detrimental to health but also to the spiritual life.

And it is must for us to stop this dangerous habit in order to have a pure relationship with God.

What can we do to stop Gluttony?

Temperance cures gluttony by implanting the desire to be healthy, therefore making one fit to serve others.

3. Greed

Greed is an excessive pursuit of material goods.

The Bible says the following in Hebrews 13:5, “Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, ‘I will never leave you nor forsake you.’”

Most of us never happy at what we have, but still wants more and more.

God is not pleased with us at what we are doing with our life when we have that greed.

Greed shows that we don't trust in God and lack faith.

What can we do to stop Greed?

Charity cures greed by putting the desire to help others above storing up treasure for one’s self.

4. Sloth

Sloth is an excessive laziness or the failure to act and utilize one’s talents.

Solomon spoke of sloth in Proverbs 6:6 saying, “Go to the ant, you sluggard! Consider her ways and be wise.''

Its such a surprise to see my friends that they have time to play games and gossip about others but when it comes about improving themselves like reading Bible, books and daily work at home makes them so lazy.

If you are lazy at daily work at home think about your spiritual life!

Do you have time for it for your spiritual life?

What we have to do to stop laziness?

Diligence or zeal cures slothfulness by placing the interest of others above a life of ease and relaxation.

5. Wrath

Wrath is a strong anger and hate towards another person.

The Bible speaks about wrath in Romans 12:19, “Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”

What profits will you gain from anger?

What profits will you gain from revenge?

Is your wrath to a friend or family members worth enough to take you heaven?

Lets us consider our ways and do things that bring blessings to others.

What can we do to stop wrath?

Patience cures wrath by one first understanding the needs and desires of others before acting or speaking.

 6. Envy

Envy is the intense desire to have an item that someone else possesses.

The Bible says the following in Proverbs 14:30, “A sound heart is life to the body, But envy is rottenness to the bones.”

I have seen in my own family how my Uncles and Aunties take by force the land which belongs to my mother.

This doesn't happen only to us but also to those good and humble people around the country.

Lets us avoid Envy if we want a place in the new Earth.

What can we do to stop this deadly practice?

Kindness cures envy by placing the desire to help others above the need to supersede them

7. Pride

Pride is an excessive view of one's self without regard for others.

The Bible says the following in Jeremiah 9:23-24, “...Let not the mighty man boast of his might...but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me...”

Lets us not boast about what we have and how much we have and what position we are but lets us humble ourselves to God and loves one another.

Pride brings destructions and not peace.

What can we do to cure pride?

Humility cures pride by removing one's ego and boastfulness, therefore allowing the attitude of service.

15. "What girls should know before marriage:"  

Under that we will see 14 points which are very essential. if anyone has any other points, please feel free to share.

1. Domestic household duties and caring body:

2. Care for the children:

3. Care during sickness:

4. Good cook and dress making:

5. Train to some business and prepare for any emergency crisis:

6. Parents to be consulted

7. Treatment of Mother an Index:

8. Look for man with financial ability:

9. Religion:

10. Take Christ as your pattern:

11. God's Purpose for the Husband and Wife

12. Marriage display:

13. Counsel to a Newly Wedded Pair

14. Children:

 we will see what sister white has to say

It is the right of every daughter of Eve to have a thorough knowledge of household duties, to receive training in every department of domestic labor. Every young lady should be so educated that if called to fill the position of wife and mother,... It is her right to understand the mechanism of the human body and the principles of hygiene, the matters of diet and dress, labor and recreation, and countless others that intimately concern the well-being of her household... AH 87.3

 It is not so important that our daughters learn painting, fancywork, music, or even “cube root”, or the figures of rhetoric (art of speaking or writing effectively), as that they learn how to cut, make, and mend their own clothing, or to prepare food in a wholesome and palatable manner. When a little girl is nine or ten years old, she should be required to take her regular share in household duties, as she is able, and should be held responsible for the manner in which she does her work. AH 91.4

2. Care for the children: It should be a law that young people should not get married unless they know how to care for the children that are brought into their family. They must know how to take care of this house that God has given them. Unless they understand in regard to the laws which God has established in their system, they cannot understand their duty to their God or themselves. AH 88.3

3. Care during sickness:

It is her right to obtain such a knowledge of the best methods of treating disease that she can care for her children in sickness, instead of leaving her precious treasures in the hands of stranger nurses and physicians. AH 87.3

4. Good cook and dress making:

If need be, a young woman can dispense with a knowledge of French and algebra, or even of the piano; but it is indispensable that she learn to make good bread, to fashion neatly fitting garments, and to perform efficiently the many duties that pertain to homemaking. AH 89.24. Good cook and dress making:

 To the health and happiness of the whole family nothing is more vital than skill and intelligence on the part of the cook. By ill-prepared, unwholesome food she may hinder and even ruin both the adult's usefulness and the child's development.

 That “the life is more than meat, and the body is more than raiment” [Luke 12:23] is a lesson no less needed now than when given by the divine Teacher eighteen hundred years ago. AH 90.1

5. Train to some business and prepare for any emergency crisis:

A woman who has been taught to take care of herself is also fitted to take care of others. She will never be a drug in the family or in society. When fortune frowns, there will be a place for her somewhere, a place where she can earn an honest living and assist those who are dependent upon her. Woman should be trained to some business whereby she can gain a livelihood if necessary.

 whether her family are rich or poor. Then, if reverses come, she is prepared for any emergency; she is, in a manner, independent of circumstances. AH 91.3

6. Parents to be consulted

Take God and your God-fearing parents into your counsel, young friends. Pray over the matter. Weigh every sentiment, and watch every development of character in the one with whom you think to link your life destiny. The step you are about to take is one of the most important in your life, and should not be taken hastily. While you may love, do not love blindly. MYP 449.2

 Examine carefully to see if your married life would be happy, or inharmonious and wretched. Let the questions be raised, Will this union help me heavenward? will it increase my love for God? and will it enlarge my sphere of usefulness in this life? If these reflections present no drawback, then in the fear of God move forward. MYP 449.3

 But even if an engagement has been entered into without a full understanding of the character of the one with whom you intend to unite, do not think that the engagement makes it a positive necessity for you to take upon yourself the marriage vow, and link yourself for life to one whom you cannot love and respect. Be very careful how you enter into conditional engagements; but better, far better, break the engagement before marriage than separate afterward, as many do. MYP 449.4

7. Treatment of Mother an Index:

True love is a plant that needs culture. Let the woman who desires a peaceful, happy union, who would escape future misery and sorrow, inquire before she yields her affections, Has my lover a mother? What is the stamp of her character? Does he recognize his obligations to her? Is he mindful of her wishes and happiness? If he does not respect and honor his mother, will he manifest respect and love, kindness and attention, toward his wife?

When the novelty of marriage is over, will he love me still? Will he be patient with my mistakes, or will he be critical, overbearing, and dictatorial? True affection will overlook many mistakes; love will not discern them. MYP. 450.1

 8. Look for man with financial ability:

No man is excusable for being without financial ability. Of many a man it may be said, He is kind, amiable (friendly and pleasant manner), generous, a good man, a Christian; but he is not qualified to manage his own business. As far as the outlay of means is concerned, he is a mere child. He has not been brought up by his parents to understand and to practice the principles of self-support. AH 93.1

9. Religion:

Religion Ensures Family Happiness—Family religion is a wonderful power. The conduct of the husband toward the wife and of the wife toward the husband may be such that it will make the home life a preparation for entrance to the family above.

 Hearts that are filled with the love of Christ can never get very far apart. Religion is love, and a Christian home is one where love reigns and finds expression in words and acts of thoughtful kindness and gentle courtesy

 Religion is needed in the home. Only this can prevent the grievous wrongs which so often embitter (feel bitter or resentful) married life. Only where Christ reigns can there be deep, true, unselfish love. Then soul will be knit with soul, and the two lives will blend in harmony. Angels of God will be guests in the home, and their holy vigils will hallow the marriage chamber.

 10. Take Christ as your pattern:

Men and women may reach a high standard, if they will but acknowledge Christ as their personal Saviour. Watch and pray, making a surrender of all to God...In thought, in word, in action, you are to be lights in the world...Take Christ as your pattern. Hold Him up as the One who can give you power to overcome. AH 96.2

 12. Marriage display:

Display, Extravagance (which too much money has been spent), and Hilarity (extreme amusement)- Are Inappropriate At Weddings—Marriage ceremonies are made matters of display, extravagance, and self-indulgence. But if the contracting parties are agreed in religious belief and practice, and everything is consistent, and the ceremony be conducted without display and extravagance, marriage at this time need not be displeasing to God. AH 100.5

 There is no reason why we should make great parade or display, even if the parties were perfectly suited to each other. AH 101.2

 It has always seemed so very inappropriate to me to see the marriage ordinance associated with hilarity and glee (high-spirited joy) and a pretense of something. No. It is an ordinance ordained of God, to be looked upon with the greatest solemnity.

 The Lord sanctified this marriage, and these two now unite their interests to work in the mission field, to seek and to save them that are lost. God will bless them in their work if they walk humbly with Him, leaning wholly upon His promises. AH 101.3

13. Counsel to a Newly Wedded Pair— My Dear Brother and Sister: You have united in a lifelong covenant. Your education in married life has begun. The first year of married life is a year of experience, a year in which husband and wife learn each other's different traits of character, as a child learns lessons in school. In this, the first year of your married life, let there be no chapters that will mar (impair the quality) your future happiness.... AH 102.5

Men and women, at the beginning of married life, should reconsecrate themselves to God. AH 103.5

Be as true as steel to your marriage vows, refusing, in thought, word, or deed, to spoil your record as a man who fears God and obeys His commandments. AH 104.1

11. God's Purpose for the Husband and Wife— God made from the man a woman, to be a companion and helpmeet for him, to be one with him, to cheer, encourage, and bless him, he in his turn to be her strong helper. All who enter into matrimonial relations with a holy purpose—the husband to obtain the pure affections of a woman's heart, the wife to soften and improve her husband's character and give it completeness—fulfill God's purpose for them. AH 99.1

Christ came not to destroy this institution, but to restore it to its original sanctity and elevation. He came to restore the moral image of God in man, and He began His work by sanctioning the marriage relation. AH 99.2

14. Children:

Children are the heritage of the Lord, and we are answerable to Him for our management of His property.... In love, faith, and prayer let parents work for their households, until with joy they can come to God saying, “Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me.” AH 159.2

A childless house is a desolate place. The hearts of the inmates are in danger of becoming selfish, of cherishing a love for their own ease, and consulting their own desires and conveniences. They gather sympathy to themselves, but have little to bestow upon others.  AH 159. 3

15. Does God test us? How we differentiate test and tempt in life 

Varun: God cannot be the subject of  temptation. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: KJV — James 1:13

The devil is the author of temptation 

1Chronicles 21:1;  Matthew 4:1;  John 13:2;

Joshua: Rightly pointed. How do we know whether this is a test or tempt ...

Angelish: Test is an examination.  He gave us the question ( choice) like tree of knowledge good and  evil versus tree of life. 

Ten commandments are also question paper. You are pass by keeping them.  Syllabus are given by God before test. 🤔

Varun: Test is a refining process were inward life is tried

Varun: Thou hast proved mine heart; thou hast visited me in the night; thou hast tried me, and shalt find nothing; I am purposed that my mouth shall not transgress. KJV — Psalm 17:3

Varun: And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness. KJV — Malachi 3:3

Varun: And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. KJV — Zechariah 13:9

Varun: Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them KJV — James 1:12

Varun: And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. KJV — Genesis 22:2

 Varun: One of the perfect example of faith being tested

Dr. Austin Navis: Temptation is enticement to sin, and this does not proceed from God, but from Satan and from the evil of our own hearts. “God cannot be tempted with evil, and He Himself tempteth no man.”  - MB 116.2

Dr. Austin Navis: God in His great love is seeking to develop in us the precious graces of His Spirit. He permits us to encounter obstacles, persecution, and hardships, not as a curse, but as the greatest blessing of our lives. Every temptation resisted, every trial bravely borne, gives us a new experience and advances us in the work of character building. The soul that through divine power resists temptation reveals to the world and to the heavenly universe the efficiency of the grace of Christ.  - MB 117.1

Temptation : desire to do something wrong or unwise 

Test : a procedure intended to establish the quality, performance or reliability of something.

Tests are from God. They are a necessity for us to enter into heaven. This is to prove to God how much we love him. 

In case of the first test , the test for Adam and Eve, they were sinless, yet they had to go through the test. 

But I think temptations are also a necessity, but I guess to some extent we can keep ourselves from getting into an environment or situation where we are likely to get tempted. 

It was more easy for Satan to tempt Eve when she put herself in that situation. If she would have been on her guard, probably they would have passed the test by God.

I feel with every test from God, there's a temptation from Satan too for us to fail in that test. 

For eg, I get a job, a very nice job with good pay, but I'm doubting about Sabbath off, 

I can just remain unemployed and wait upon God rather than joining the work, putting myself in that situation where it'll be more likely for me to fall into the temptation of not keeping the Sabbath

Joshua: Meaning 

1. Test 

a who pass the test

b. Who fail the test

2. Tempt

a. Who overcome the temptation

b. Who yield into temptation

 Joshua: Are 1a = 2a, or 1a#2b, 1b=2b or 1b#2b. Same reward in the end, or different reward in the end ...

Angelish: Temptation—What is it?

What is temptation?—It is the means by which those who claim to be the children of God are tested and tried. We read that God tempted Abraham, that he tempted the children of Israel. This means that he permitted circumstances to occur to test their faith, and lead them to look to him for help. God permits temptation to come to his people today, that they may realize that he is their helper. If they draw nigh to him when they are tempted, he strengthens them to meet the temptation. But if they yield to the enemy, neglecting to place themselves close to their Almighty Helper, they are overcome. They separate themselves from God. They do not give evidence that they walk in God's way

In Eden garden we can see the scenario TEST and TEMPTATION.

Temptations will be appealing things which hearts really desire, comes with false assurance of pleasure, rewards, mixed with half truth, false appearance, they always seem to come at our weakest moments. Heeding leads to destruction.

Note: Tempter can tempts us only from the forbidden tree.

Test its unpleasant & uncomfortable, obscuring, deals with our faith and trust, at the end modify us with better quality of life.

whether we are facing temptation or test, let us not compromise our principles, face it as Jesus overcame with the words of God - It is written.....

16. MUSIC 🎶 IN THE CHURCH. 

SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE ON MUSIC IN YOUR CHURCH ⛪️

"The Lord has shown me would take place just before the close of probation. Every uncouth thing will be demonstrated. There will be shouting, with drums, music, and dancing. The senses of rational beings will become so confused that they cannot be trusted to make right decisions. And this is called the moving of the Holy Spirit." Maranatha 14th August.

We see same music use in the world and  church as well⛪️. Way of playing differ. Some worldly music  sound better than some christian music and vice versa. So the problem is when we don't  know what sacred song/music to be played in the church, not what ever we want. Sacred music - music that  uplift Christ. 

ANY FURTHER THOUGHTS AND CONTRIBUTION

Once piano 🎹  was not accepted in the church, regarded as secural instrument. Now use as one the most used instrument in the church. 

NOTE - HOW CAN WE USE MUSIC TO EXALT GOD'S  NAME

Sonia Vinod: Music was made to serve a holy purpose, to lift the thoughts to that which is pure, noble, and elevating, and to awaken in the soul devotion and gratitude to God. What a contrast between the ancient custom and the uses to which music is now too often devoted! How many employ this gift to exalt self, instead of using it to Glorify God! A love for music leads the unwary to unite with world lovers in pleasure gatherings where God has forbidden His children to go. Thus that which is a great blessing when rightly used, becomes one of the most successful agencies by which Satan allures the mind from duty and from the contemplation of eternal things. PP 594.2

Sonia Vinod: Music forms a part of God's worship in the courts above, and we should endeavor, in our songs of praise, to approach as nearly as possible to the harmony of the heavenly choirs.  PP 594.3

Cornet ,Cymbals, Psalteries 2Sam 6:5

Sackbut Daniel 3:5

Tabrets Genesis 31:27 

Trumpets Used in War Numbers 10:9 

Viols Isaiah 5:12 

Full Orchestra

DRUMMING OR USE OF DRUMS IN WORSHIP SERVICE

The Bible is not opposed to the use of musical instruments in the Seventh-day Adventist church. In fact, Mrs. White encouraged the tasteful use of musical instruments. However, she was emphatic that it is better never to have the worship of God blended with music than to use musical instruments to create “a bedlam of noise” that shocks the senses and perverts the worship. “The Holy Spirit never reveals [Himself] in such methods, in such a bedlam of noise.” (2 Selected Messages, p. 36).

She stressed that music suited to the stage was foreign to the worship context. Forced or strained vocal deliveries that emphasize loudness, along with undignified, unrefined gestures and “acting attitudes,” are out of keeping with the worship atmosphere of Heaven. The “softer,” “finer,” “sweeter,” “more silvery strains” are “more like angel music,” whereas opposite attributes tend to be driven by self-centered “love of praise.” (3 Selected Messages, p. 335).


The specific issue we want to address is should drumming be a legitimate part of worship service. Does it have any use at all the religious life of the church.  Space limitations will only permit a brief discussion here.

Musical Instruments in the Bible. Among the prominent musical instruments mentioned in the Bible are: harp, lyre, cymbal, trumpet, ram’s horn (shofar) and drums. Of these, the drum is the focus of our interest. In Scripture, whether it is referred to as tambourine, timbrel or tabret, it simply means a “hand-drum.” Our study will show that in every reference of its use in the Bible, drums were used outside the sanctuary service—in a common type of setting (e.g., social settings or festive celebrations).

a. Sanctuary Worship.  The Lord specified three types of instruments to be used by the Levites in the Sanctuary. These are: harp, lyre [or stringed instrument], and the cymbal (1 Chronicles 25:1).

Note: The drum is not mentioned. Of the three instruments mentioned, the harp and lyre were, essentially, the same type of stringed instrument. They were both harps. One (the harp) played the higher register while the other (the lyre) played the lower range. The only percussive instrument listed is cymbal, an instrument that was apparently used to mark the pauses or intermissions.  Some Bible scholars speculate that the term “Selah,” which is often found in Psalms, may have indicated the place where the cymbal was struck.

The same three musical instruments are mentioned in 1 Chronicles 25:6, with added instruction that the chosen musicians were to be under the instruction of their fathers (men of music, and most importantly, spiritual excellence).

In 2 Chronicles 29:25, during the time of Hezekiah, it is made very clear that the instruction regarding music, musical instruments, and musicians originated with God Himself. It reads:

“And he stationed the Levites in the house of the LORD with cymbals, with stringed instruments, and with harps, according to the commandment of David, of Gad the king’s seer, and of Nathan the prophet; for thus was the commandment of the LORD by His prophets” (2 Chron 29:25).

b. Assorted “Drums Texts” in the Bible. Though drums were apparently NOT employed in the sanctuary service, they were used in festivals and celebrations outside of the sanctuary. Here are some relevant texts:

1.Genesis 31:27—Laban’s words to Jacob. Drums (tabrets) to have been used in farewell celebration.

"Why did you flee away secretly, and steal away from me, and not tell me; for I might have sent you away with joy and songs, with timbrel and harp?"

2. 1 Samuel 10:5-6—Samuel predicts that after Saul’s anointment, he would be met by prophets playing various musical instruments (including drums or tambourine).

“5After that you shall come to the hill of God where the Philistine garrison is. And it will happen, when you have come there to the city, that you will meet a group of prophets coming down from the high place with a stringed instrument, a tambourine, a flute, and a harp before them; and they will be prophesying. 6 Then the Spirit of the LORD will come upon you, and you will prophesy with them and be turned into another man.”

3. Job 17:6—the Hebrew word used for what the King James Version refers to as “tabret” is the word tophet, which refers to an act of “spitting.” Apparently, the word tophet was confused by the translators with the word toph which means a “hand drum.”

“But He has made me a byword of the people, And I have become one in whose face men spit.

4. Job 21:11-14—Context refers to celebration outside the sanctuary

“1 They send forth their little ones like a flock, And their children dance. 12 They sing to the tambourine and harp,And rejoice to the sound of the flute. 13 They spend their days in wealth, And in a moment go down to the grave. 14 Yet they say to God, ‘Depart from us, For we do not desire the knowledge of Your ways.”

5. Psalm 81:2—Refers to the celebration of the exodus and the Lord’s victory over the Egyptians. It was outside the sanctuary.

“Raise a song and strike the timbrel, The pleasant harp with the lute.”

6. Isaiah 24:8—refers to the sound of music ceasing at the desolation of the earth.

“The mirth of the tambourine ceases, The noise of the jubilant ends, The joy of the harp ceases.”

7. Jeremiah 31:4—God’s promise of restoration and a description of the celebration that would be expressed by the children of Israel upon their return from the Babylonian captivity.

“O virgin of Israel! You shall again be adorned with your tambourines, And shall go forth in the dances of those who rejoice.”

8. Ezekiel 28:13—reference to the musical ability of Lucifer before his fall.

“You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created.”

c. “Drum Texts” Associated with Disobedience

Isaiah 5:11-13—Disobedience of Israel

1 Chronicles 13:7-10—David disobeyed God’s commandment about how the ark was to be transported. When he repented, he did the right thing. But this time drums (trimbrels) NOT included (see 1 Chronicles 15:12-24).

d. “Drum Texts” Associated with Battle

Exodus 15:1-5, 20-21—In connection with the victory over the Egyptians at the Red Sea

Judges 11:34—Jephthah’s daughter met her father “with trimbrels and with dances.” The celebration was in response to the victory in the battle over the Ammonites.

1 Samuel 18:6, 7—Celebration of the women after David killed Goliath

Isaiah 30:31-33—Celebration over the Lord’s victory over the Assyrians.

Psalm 149—Drums used in celebration of God’s victory over all his enemies. (For a further discussion of Psalm 149 and Psalm 150, see the next section on dancing).

Psalm 150—For some, verse 1 presents a problem because it speaks of praising God “in His Sanctuary.” However, Psalm 150 is the final great finale to the Hallelujah series of Psalms that commence in Psalms 146. Psalm 150 concludes this series with a final call for everything (whether on earth or in heaven) that has breath to join in the praise anthem of God.  Verse 1 is simply an invitation to those in heaven (the heavenly sanctuary) to worship God in “the firmament of His power”  (see SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 3, p. 941, revised ed.). The text reads: “Praise God in his sanctuary [which is in]: the firmament of his power.”

These “battle drum texts” emphasize the celebration that takes place when God granted victory. But some will say, we must use drums and dancing in the church to celebrate the victories God has given us in our spiritual battles over sin.  The question is: Did the Israelites win spiritual battles over sin in their lives? How come the bible doesn’t give a record of that. It is interesting that there is no reference to drums (timbrel) being used in the New Testament. Historical records showed that drumming and dancing were banned because of their association with common and profane things.

NOTE: We’re not suggesting that drums/dancing are wrong in themselves. All we’re saying is that they were not used in the sanctuary, but only during festive occasions. Drums were not part of the prescribed musical instruments for worship.

Music was made to serve a holy purpose, to lift the thoughts to that which is pure, noble, and elevating, and to awaken in the soul devotion and gratitude to God. What a contrast between the ancient custom and the uses to which music is now too often devoted! How many employ this gift to exalt self, instead of using it to Glorify God! A love for music leads the unwary to unite with world lovers in pleasure gatherings where God has forbidden His children to go. Thus that which is a great blessing when rightly used, becomes one of the most successful agencies by which Satan allures the mind from duty and from the contemplation of eternal things. PP 594.2

How coal and crude oil was formed according to spirit of prophecy



Secular Science says it took millions of years for coal to be formed but Bible says Earth is only 6000 years old. Spirit of prophecy helps us to understand the true science behind the formation of coal.


Before the Flood the development of vegetable and animal life was immeasurably superior to that which has since been known. At the Flood the surface of the earth was broken up, marked changes took place, and in the re-formation of the earth's crust were preserved many evidences of the life previously existing. The vast forests buried in the earth at the time of the Flood, and since changed to coal, form the extensive coal fields, and yield the supplies of oil that minister to our comfort and convenience today. These things, as they are brought to light, are so many witnesses mutely testifying to the truth of the word of God. Ed 129.

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